ONI Information/Positions/Rankings

[Asiune]

As not a lot of people know about how ONI Works anymore especially when it comes to the Command Structure, I have decided to add a page to my Unit that goes into detail about ONI's Information, Positions, and Rankings for those who may not know or is missinformed.
Feel Free to check it out, I will be adding more to my Unit for the public to see and learn.
https://www.lysithea.ai/units/page/33-oni-informationpositionsrankings/

[Accessing]

Potential for misunderstanding what ONI is and more information on ONI's positions and ranks can be cleared here. In ONI's discord server, https://discord.gg/ONI this information is available. The information is also available non-publicly as it the site continues its developing plan. I would ask you respect that and not spread misinformation to our practices. 

[Asiune]

On 8/20/2023 at 8:34 AM, Accessing said:

Potential for misunderstanding what ONI is and more information on ONI's positions and ranks can be cleared here. In ONI's discord server, https://discord.gg/ONI this information is available. The information is also available non-publicly as it the site continues its developing plan. I would ask you respect that and not spread misinformation to our practices. 

I mean what was mostly said was lore based, not really misinformation, when it comes to the community side thats what its been like for a long time.

On 8/20/2023 at 8:34 AM, Accessing said:

Potential for misunderstanding what ONI is and more information on ONI's positions and ranks can be cleared here. In ONI's discord server, https://discord.gg/ONI this information is available. The information is also available non-publicly as it the site continues its developing plan. I would ask you respect that and not spread misinformation to our practices. 

Now if you would like me to remove the community part I will, but the Lore part is staying due to well it being Lore.

[Accessing]

On 8/21/2023 at 4:00 AM, Asiune said:

Now if you would like me to remove the community part I will, but the Lore part is staying due to well it being Lore.

Do you understand what you mean by lore ranks? 

[ https://www.halopedia.org/UNSC_rank_structure ] 

This is the definitive canon ranks, none of them are on that.. if lore does not equate to canon no one knows what you are talking about. 

[Asiune]

On 8/20/2023 at 7:45 PM, Accessing said:

Do you understand what you mean by lore ranks? 

[ https://www.halopedia.org/UNSC_rank_structure ] 

This is the definitive canon ranks, none of them are on that.. if lore does not equate to canon no one knows what you are talking about. 

I do, but what I mean by Lore Ranks/Positions for ONI they are not defined, and this is as close to lore accurate Ranks/Positions for ONI.

[Accessing]

On 8/21/2023 at 10:59 AM, Asiune said:

I do, but what I mean by Lore Ranks/Positions for ONI they are not defined, and this is as close to lore accurate Ranks/Positions for ONI.

Are you deciding for everyone else what is close to lore accurate for ONI? 

What is the basis for this information? If this information is unique to your group than its asked you keep it to yourself unless you want to talk about it openly in peer review, afterall the dispute forums is for discussing any kind of clan related drama. 

[Asiune]

On 8/20/2023 at 8:06 PM, Accessing said:

Are you deciding for everyone else what is close to lore accurate for ONI? 

What is the basis for this information? If this information is unique to your group than its asked you keep it to yourself unless you want to talk about it openly in peer review, afterall the dispute forums is for discussing any kind of clan related drama. 

I mean if The ONI Command Structure is me deciding for everyone when literally Several other CINCs have done the exact same with Section Directors, the I guess I am. But its also going off just common knowledge of a command structure.

[Accessing]

On 8/21/2023 at 11:08 AM, Asiune said:

I mean if The ONI Command Structure is me deciding for everyone when literally Several other CINCs have done the exact same with Section Directors, the I guess I am. But its also going off just common knowledge of a command structure.

I am trying to find out the basis for the information you shared. Do you think its appropriate to make things up because other people you know have made things up? 

I'll provide an example using the support subscription model of the site since its small and follows a basic pricing ladder. 

The store of the site [ https://www.lysithea.ai/subscriptions/ ] offers subscription plans that model the YouTuber Installation00's Patreon; this information can be found here https://www.patreon.com/Installation00 

There is 8 titles offered that are completely isolated from the clan title and positions or forum rank. 

From lowest to highest

INTERN
Interns. Integral to vision of ONI, bringing new eyes and ideas to overcome challenges. For those who wish to play their part and contribute to the future.  

ANALYST
Analysts. Analyze intelligence collected around the world, identify threats and opportunities and make decisions for all of us to comeback safely home. 

OPERATIVE
Operatives. Field action and results, bringing data and respect to our intelligence. At the forefront to every mission they change the course of every theater. 

CASE OFFICER
Case Officers. Build networks and cells, leading teams in perfect execution and adaption to all combat scenarios. 

BASE CHIEF
Chief of Base or Base Chief. Build the safe houses, bivouacs and stations for logistical support and action.  

STATION CHIEF
Chief of Station or Station Chief. The leaders to each team, post or function setting the camera in the theater of war. 

DEPUTY DIRECTOR
Deputy Director. Executive action responsible for the timeliness, accuracy, and relevance of intelligence analysis. The core to information delivery. 

DIRECTOR
Director. Strategic direction and senior official ensuring efficient management of the intelligence process to inform decision-making and mitigate threat, risk and harm.

These ranks can be found in Halo in the Office of Naval Intelligence but where we could not find any valid evidence we reverse searched the positions of the CIA/NSA because essentially ONI is an combination of modern intelligence agencies in a far-future science fiction. The basis of the information is grounded here in reality and through the extensive research to just create those ranks. The forum ranks are also similarly positions plausible in both the CIA/NSA with consideration for European and Australian agencies too. 

[Asiune]

So using a Patreon tier list as a base for a Website Level system and Sub system, is what ONI should actually use? and Yet Lore says otherwise on what ONI positions are and what the community says otherwise about what ONI Positions are.

You say im trying to force something onto people when You just said that and trying to say ONI is not a category of Clans when in reality it is, Now adays.

[Accessing]

Here is an extensive overview of ONI, this is by no means an ORBAT but clearly you are looking for more information and this is the culmination of our research to what ONI is. [ https://www.lysithea.ai/oni/organization/overview/ ] 

For future references you can find official ONI information if the URL follows /ONI after Lysithea, Lysithea and the concept of her AI is a framed narrative around ONI and the experiences we create. 

On 8/21/2023 at 11:29 AM, Asiune said:

So using a Patreon tier list as a base for a Website Level system and Sub system, is what ONI should actually use? and Yet Lore says otherwise on what ONI positions are and what the community says otherwise about what ONI Positions are.

You say im trying to force something onto people when You just said that and trying to say ONI is not a category of Clans when in reality it is, Now adays.

I did not say that is what ONI actually uses... 

My response was how you should respond when being asked what the basis of the information; I explained a simple structure and how that information was validated and put together. It has since been officiated as something we use for the subscription plans offered and there is very little to argue over it than there should be a limited amount of subcribers in the higher titles. 

By no means is it a system anyone else has to follow, that is not what I said either. I am not trying to force what we developed for our offering to the community to support this site as the end all be all system for clans. 

[Asiune]

On 8/20/2023 at 8:42 PM, Accessing said:

Here is an extensive overview of ONI, this is by no means an ORBAT but clearly you are looking for more information and this is the culmination of our research to what ONI is. [ https://www.lysithea.ai/oni/organization/overview/ ] 

For future references you can find official ONI information if the URL follows /ONI after Lysithea, Lysithea and the concept of her AI is a framed narrative around ONI and the experiences we create. 

I did not say that is what ONI actually uses... 

My response was how you should respond when being asked what the basis of the information; I explained a simple structure and how that information was validated and put together. It has since been officiated as something we use for the subscription plans offered and there is very little to argue over it than there should be a limited amount of subcribers in the higher titles. 

By no means is it a system anyone else has to follow, that is not what I said either. I am not trying to force what we developed for our offering to the community to support this site as the end all be all system for clans. 

Im not trying to force what is commonly used between all the other ONIs. I just like you said for yourself is sharing information, and giving people a run down on the ONI Command Structure commonly used.

[Accessing]

To me its unclear that was your intention because you wanted people to look at your unit instead of posting that information directly here for conversation.

There is a context here that is missing: 

ONI as in https://www.halopedia.org/Office_of_Naval_Intelligence is not to be confused with ONI as in the clan, what exactly are you talking about? Made up ranks and titles or grounded source material. 

[Asiune]

I am talking about what is commonly used within other ONI Clans, and what is to be assumed. From Lore there are several figure heads from ONI that are seen at certain positions that are not cleared. So from interpretation they are certain positions not mentioned but have been made within the community to clear the command structure up. I am fully aware that there isn't a clear representation of a command structure in lore, but when translating Lore to Community somethings are up for interpretation. and those Interpretations have ended up becoming common use.

On 8/20/2023 at 8:47 PM, Accessing said:

To me its unclear that was your intention because you wanted people to look at your unit instead of posting that information directly here for conversation.

There is a context here that is missing: 

ONI as in https://www.halopedia.org/Office_of_Naval_Intelligence is not to be confused with ONI as in the clan, what exactly are you talking about? Made up ranks and titles or grounded source material. 

And when it comes to having people go to my Page I thought it be easier for people to look at a single page rather than look through a forum that could take awhile to dig through.

[CAPT N Reibach]

So people made up the seats thing and really ran with it?

Doesn't anyone know that its called chairman to all that sit on a council or committee, does anyone understand how a board works and theocratic leadership man its embarrassing. ONI's councils are adjacent to military command, thats also best reflected here in the deep forums. I think Sgt Rorschach said it best praising us for that. Everyone on a council isn't numbered off by which chair they sit in, no one ever even in reality does it like that. There isn't 5 CINCs either boy am I glad I am not apart of whatever ONI is allowing all of that. All that's been shared sound like a recipe for disaster and its funny because thats what I've heard has been happening amongst other ONIs.